The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think.. And they can record all they want. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children., I believe that is where he got the idea of blaming Shannan.. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. The nut incident. After Chris admitted to the murders, Ronnie and Cindy each gave statements to the court. We dont have to like or even try to get with *in-laws*.there could be many reasons behindWhy. Thats ridiculous . I am a family therapist and wondered exactly the same. I would like to understand too, if he killed his kids, and I think he did, why he did it. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. He went gray rock very early on in life to deal to cope with his mother. Wow.boga.you must strictly be on shananns side. i believe it was 100% premeditated by the family to give shannan the pills. THAT is what Shanann was dealing with. Id fight. I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. Its a shame that his family couldnt just roll with it for the sake of Chris. God bless those poor victims. If Watts started to develop first enmity, then a murderous resentment towards his wife [no one is saying he was justified, just that those feelings had to have been there], then if his own parents disliked Shanann [as Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis] he may have felt he could get away with it. August 1, 2018: Chris Watts' First Day in North Carolina #1yearagotodayCW. Jamie Lyn Williams, the sister of Colorado killer Chris Watts appears in an exclusive prison sit-down with her brother. She made that post in a private allergy support page. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. CW parents were considered safe and good enough to babysit for up to a fortnight while Cw and Shanann were staying at places like Punta Cana. Im sure there are many more Secrets on the Rzucek family.. .. side When I see Chris pictures from when he was younger, I see dead eyes. No, none of us are. My understanding is that the Rzucek family is being harassed by online trolls receiving death threats, even but not the Watts family. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. Thats just not factual at all. My Sister's Closet Suzanne Singer Mr. & Mrs. William . Despicable And completely typical Narcissistic behavior. Theres no such thing as all good or all bad. The dumb bitch. Expect a lot of aggression and animosity from the Shanann camp. The books provide a much deeper and more thorough analysis. ago. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. We just love you. Locked post. Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. 2022 Circle of Friends Donors . Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over. With your comment where you know . Next time she will not do thatoh wait, never mind she cant correct her behavior because Chris killed her and the girls. Cant understand how they just couldnt focus on being nice with each other for a few hours, just for the children. Shanann kept trying to involve his family of ungrates she should have told them to all fuck off when they didnt go tot he wedding and tried to sabatoge that as well, Watts sister and mother went to the bridal party before the wedding. She suffered enough. Even though Ive written three books, I feel weve barely scratched the surface, and I think theres a great big pile of skeletons still stuck in the closet. These men are what is know as Family Annihilators. That day had to be hugely significant in her life because the father of her own child wasnt around, and because her own father then and there wasnt exactly father of the year, in fact for the previous months hed been threatening to divorce Cindy Anthony and that meant they all might lose the house. They can go back under their rocks now we have all seen enough. Many people dont understand the severity of nut allergies. Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side. i havent seen anyone bring her up or the fact that she even works at a hospital, or even as suspect for nicos murder but she def is in my book. A MUM killed alongside her two kids has had her final moments revealed in her evil husband's sick prison letters. How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister, Jamie? So Cindy Watts didnt attend her sons wedding. What if his (unconscious) hatred and rage was really meant for his mother? Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. In Touch Weekly is part of the a360media Entertainment Group.Copyright a360media 2023. From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. Archived post. Nonetheless why risk it? Was it because he was somehow saving them from something? Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? Ironic it wasnt shanann who destroyed her son, this mistress is more involved than she tried to say, it was more her that helped destroy Chriss life, she didnt do it but telling him immediately to pawn her rings? I think its the most reasonable one on here. Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? So Cindy Watts didn't attend her son's wedding. I think she also said somewhere that shell fight for him no matter what. Ive written a trilogy of books about the Peterson case, and a trilogy on the Watts case, so the similarities are all too clear. [Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home]. A similar dynamic seems to have played out in the Watts family, minus the privileged status. Yeah Gabby, and it sure is too bad that we cant clear this all up and move on well we can, but Shanan, CeeCee and Bella cannot because Chris Watts choked them to death. Shanann got the wrath that was really meant for Mom-Watts. (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children. I think Cindy probably encouraged Jaime to not send them or even throw them away. I want him to plead not guilty to the children, she said. Nuts are no longer an issue anyway. I have a daughter in law, in my opinion the greater onus is on me to get along with her. On the one hand he had his wife complaining, and on the other, a lover selling him dreams. Total narcissism. And the whole time Shannan is dealing with this, Chris is cuddling back home with another woman. Just not now. Ashley's main point is that Chris Watts was a seething, passive-aggressive narcissist. A pregnant woman in her 15th week, just getting home at 1:48am from a business trip, who was already in the separation process, isnt going to snap and kill her two children. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side.>>>Very well put Nan. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. These people dont even mention the precious children that their son killed WORST GRANDPARENTS EVERRRRRR!!!! Two camps. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. Bitch excuse me?? Agreed. This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. Two camps? These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Nonetheless why risk it? I dont think shes fighting because she feels hes innocent. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. I carry grudges. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. Thats what regular folks do. Chris Watts 2012 Speech on Communication Speech, Relationship Deterioration and Repair; Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Lake, North Carolina. The constant bashing of Shanann. Or read etc. Following their sons admission, Ronnie and Cindy Watts protected Chris innocence, claiming his lawyer talked him into confessing to a crime with mounting evidence against him whether he committed those acts or not. Save his life and life in prison to me, theres no difference. Quite a start huh? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I have been able to skim through the 2,000 pages of investigation notes. And I think years of being just the nice guy to go along with everything and being bossed around and feeling so small like he didnt really have a say, Im sure had a profound impact on his mental health coupled with the fact that he allegedly wasnt excited to have another baby and didnt really love being a dad as much as he claimed. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. Do I think Shanann was a saint? Do you think Shanann would place nuts in some kids ice cream when she knew they were severely allergic to nuts like Cindy Watts did to Celeste?? Was it because they were an extension of Shanann? I have removed the annoying background noise from this interview because many people couldn't understand what Watts was saying.On February 18, 2019, three ag. He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. Cindy Watts had a great hand in manipulating her daughter and husband to side with her against Shannan. For my part, Im interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, and the characters involved. Why put the nuts out knowing it could set Shannan off? The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. 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This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. There was a stolen set of manuscript notes which are not a book, but interview notes. She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. His full birth name is Christopher Lee Watts. Not sure what more she wanted in a daughter-in-law. He just saw JAMIE and her family during his recent visit to North Carolina. Yes, a lot of mom denial. I knew there had to be a wife vs mother prize fight going on after reading Shananns reaction to the nut incident with Chriss mother. He killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress not because he disliked his wife. She completely shut me down. His father, Ronnie, chimed in adding, If he didnt kill the children, I want him to face that and let them prove it.. At 1:27 in this video link, Cindy Watts says it so quickly its easy to miss it completely. Does anyone know if she's ever made any kind of public statement or opinion? Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Shanann did merited a death sentence. And he knows he is being recorded. I just want him to fight. They have no history with law enforcement,domestic violence or mental problems. Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? Her version is a very twisted version. One of the younger kids at the house pulled out some ice cream. What a shitty thing to do. If only Chris got a divorce. the person who gave him the oxy had to be in his family since he said hed take whoever it was to the grave. Where the hell is she in all this? His father would not use physical discipline, but would raise his voice. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? Id fightbut then you ask yourself, Would a normal person putdispose of the bodies the way that he did? It scares me to death [speaking softly, nodding] that he could have done all of this. They absolutely refuse to accept it. Chris sister, Jaime (at least its likely his sister), addresses briefly some of these very topics in a forum a couple months ago. Cindy KNEW about the nut allergy, but did not believe it was serious, so she left chocolate out for the 3-year-old to get into and fed her peanut ice cream. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. She was you. He was always the quiet kid who followed the rules. She works with patients in home care. Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? There is right, and there is wrong. For those who believe Shanann killed her kids, would it have been for one or more of the same reasons I listed for Chris? Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. To just throw them away? The women had all drawn lines in the sand and that takes a toll on everyone, I think. Chris Watts speaks to his sister Jamie from Prison - WATTS FAMILY TAPES Watts The Truth 1.21K subscribers Subscribe 580 Share Save 69K views 2 years ago CHRIS WATTS SPEAKING TO HIS. You usually tell that person and give them the option of asking someone else. It was related to the small child of a girlfriend. Im not going to name them. I grew up in upper middle class. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If all this has been brewing since the time of their wedding and even before then, you have to wonder whether the move to Colorado was a way to get away from it all. THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. I could almost hear Cindy Watts yelling and pressuring her husband to do so. Thanks for the link JC. Was Shannan a saint? I had a fantastic relationship with my mother-in-law. Happy Thanksgiving 2017: Shanann Watts makes mini cannolis. Chris Watts was done with his wife and children so he slaughtered them. As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. That said, Im not sure I understand the camp [besides the family] who are championing the cause of Chris Watts. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. For more information, please see our Thats all I mean. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. This is, this is what I want. No way his mother would have said that crap. You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. Kathleen. Shanann wore the pants in the marriage and Chriss anger built over time. Sure gets ones mind in thinking mode! By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. They had intended to go but felt they couldnt after this. Inside edition= Fake News. Oct 31 2015. He had dead eyes as a lad. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. As to whether people attend weddings when one of their children is thrown out of the wedding, I dont know thats a personal choice, but it would be a hard one. Or send them back to Shanaan. She was human and had flaws just like all of us. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. Do not say one god damn bad word about Shanann. Not sure the outcome. He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. Cindy and Jamie teamed up to place nuts on the table. I bet so was Chris mom. They appeared to be walking through an open mall cafes, shops the sun was setting. As we now know, it took the Watts parents all of two seconds to give Chris a pass for killing Shannan. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. Look no further than his parents, especially his gum chewing, cold mother, to learn what made him a heartless, narcissistic, arrogant psychopath. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words (so eloquently). Love your take. Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts' - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe Share 20K views 3 years ago #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts #Thrive Chris. Shananns brother cared about everybody, saying he thought he had a brother, but Chriss mother cared more about making excuses for him than what he did, Shananns brother Frankie was charged with child abuse in 2015 or 2016. 2 counts She went to North Carolina for six weeks at the very end of June. It was more about the supervision for Shannan than it was about anything else and she flipped her lid and the kids were hiding behind the curtains because they were scared. As far as I have read, this video is from when he was in the Colorado prison. You mentioned the Lacy Peterson case in passing, but the comparisons are far closer. And they can record all they want.. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. I had a mother in law like Cindy Watts. I agree. After after she is brutally murdered along with her children, her husbands family is waging a smear campaign against her and trying to salvage their own public image. Granted, she didnt have to plaster it on Facebook, but thats what people do nowadays. Same year Shanann and Chris filed for bankruptcy. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Do you hear yourself? All their old friends have said the same thing. I wouldnt. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. Privacy Policy. His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. o His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. #crime #chriswatts #shanannwattsHis father is his hero and his best friend.shanann watts chris watts, true crime, watts family murders, jamie watts, cindy watts, ronnie watts chris watts, full story, chris, watts, prison mail, fan mail, nichol kessinger, shanann ,love letters, christopher, shanann watts, christopher watts, chris watts full story ,murders, murder, life,morbid minds, autopsy, watts family, confession, dr phil, he watts family homicides, interview, denver7 chris watts, chris watts confession interview, chris watts sentencing, interrogation,shanann watts videos, chris watts arrest, home search, documentary, chris watts neighbor camerahttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://youtu.be/6u1L9jeh434 All anyone needs to know is that his youngest daughter died, begging for her life, and he brutally killed her anyway. Over time her actions ,her treatment of him, his parents. Shanann herself fed CeCe Thrive bars with nuts in them, but it was coconut which isnt considered a true tree nut. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. His father struggled with substance abuse after he CHRIS moved out. They cut her off. Trinket doesnt say much, does she? Zoom in on his eyes. According to sources in the know his sister and mother are behind this awful Facebook page and people from it send horrible stuff to shananns parents and police are aware and are investigating. Were all just people. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. If shed given Shannan a chance for the love of her son things may have been rosier. Certainly Chris's sister, Jamie, didn't. Jamie had kept well out of Chris and Shan'ann's life for years, since they'd kicked her out of their wedding, in fact. So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. JAMIE was the rebellious child in the family. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Recently, new documents showed that Nowak visited Watts over 30 times . I call him Pennywise, make of that mom de guerre what you will. You sound like one of those men who spend a lot of time online whining on about women. Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them. Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate Am I the only one that finds it strange that Jamie is a respiratory therapist? The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. Its probable that she really did not want to be part of the wedding party to begin with (under constant pressure from Cindy). Who cares why?? When a person commits to being a bridesmaid, that includes showing up. Article continues below advertisement Records show Nowak made. Although she deleted her account shortly after posting these comments, I do believe this was likely Jaime Williams attempting to defend her brothers character and reputation. A community to discuss the murders of Shan'ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts, who were murdered by their confessed killer, Christopher Lee Watts, now serving 5 life sentences at Dodge County Correctional Institution on Waupun, WI. I, too, am interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, characters involved and MLM influence. Cindy didnt kill anybody. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. CHILLING footage shows the moment triple-murderer Chris Watts stops to buy breakfast on the morning he disposed of the bodies of his wife and children. Chris Watts is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Learn about the nut incident that happened when Shanann took the girls to his family for a visit. Perhaps he was trying to save his daughters from the madness he knew he had for a long time. I think there was never a talk as he described and he surprised her in her sleep. My family didnt drink. Especially those girls..Indeed she loathed Shanann, but not her grand daughters. The one with Bella at the splash pad where she was wrapped up in a blanket. (His defense attorney) shut me down. Her Thrivinga bomb waiting to go off. You were the kindest, kindest person there ever was, the mother continued. Then there was a totally separate event an engagement party thrown by ShanAnns maid of honor Nichole Canady, which his family had zero part of. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This is my decision. So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. Be the first to know about the biggest stories as they break. I understand you might not like your mother in law and your mother in law very well could be a shrew, terrible woman like Cindy. That is a losing battle. Cheers "Where the hell. She even waited for her husband to run out of the house on an errand to expose CeCe to the nuts. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. Shananns the root of evil? Not the other way around. Or if youre a woman, you have submitted that youre trash as a woman, from being subjected to those men who spend their time making youtube videos saying they dont want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad, The WATTS family that were inlaws to Shanann, all THREE of them, give all in laws a bad name. If you nodded your head while saying no is also a lie. Shanann should have wiped this woman from her life, says a lot about her character that she still had a single thing to do with this woman. My thoughts are just that its a pretty big deal not to go to a wedding so it would be interesting to get all the facts. CW's sister Jamie Throughout all my reading of the case I've never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SW's fb). Shanann also posted a picture of Ronnie Watts on Fathers Day and paid tribute to her husband for being a great dad. This is because Chris Watts is a psychopath, a monster and a narcissist nothing more. I think it looks foolish for her to write the book with her mother denying illness and allergies while being in the health care industry. I left the project because as I have publicly stated I believe his primary targets were his children. This nightmare has to be over for everybody.. Too bad it took 4 lives, 4 innocent lives to find out what a monster he was. I just wished you would have talked to us more.. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. To be honest, I firmly believe Shanann thought she was above all, when in reality she wasnt. I had a wonderful mother in law and I take from her how to treat a daughter in law. I note from the discovery file she also had a troubled relationship with SW so it would interesting to know more. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. No one would attend if one of their kids got thrown out of the wedding.
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