And yes, it is possible to move quickly through long security lines simply by asking those in front of you if you can go ahead of them. We have checked luggage. I've been electing for at least 90 minutes in hubs. Would you adjust any of your time estimates to take into consideration the construction? 4 hours between arrival and departure. Also if I did miss the connecting flight would AA get me on the next available one as they are who the tickets are booked under via the travel agent? Not gonna lie thats a connection that would make even my butt pucker a little (lol). Do you think 2:33 is enough to catch my flight to Sao Paulo? Jet blue keeps changing our flight! If for whatever reason a terminal change is required, the minimum connection time increases to 1 hour. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The short connection times that AAL often books me in CLT always cause me to call and change, sometimes multiple times. Then still out of breath from running with heavy backpack with underlying asthma I sat in one of the MULTIPLE empty handicap seats nearby because I was too exhausted to go any further hoping to finally rest and catch my breath but of course the bitch decided AA hasn't ruined my day enough and comes over and tells me to vacate the seat as it's for handicap, I move to another seat and course never ever does come occupy those seats. First off, I want to thank you for your efforts on this blog. Youre welcome Jenny! If the airline isnt willing to put you on a later flight, youre going to have to hustle once you arrive at JFK. I would say you could do a 25 minute connection if your flight was on time. Its worth noting that terminal changes arent usually required at JFK as long as youre flying the same airline (or airline alliance). Hi Scott!!! Not an easy task!! That means the very first stop after Terminal 1 is Terminal 8. Refer to American Airlines Refunds.. I called up AA today because the online system said "flight change. There are many AA flights from JFK to LAX every day so theyll get you there without any issues no matter what. Hi Priscilla British Airways uses terminal 8 at JFK, and Delta uses terminal 4, so you will have to change terminals. Have booked some really cheap awards and ultimately ended up getting a much more favorable schedule. While deplaning in ten minutes - then, taking zero minutes to walk and board your connecting flight fifteen minutes prior to boarding - and making a connecting flight departing 25-minutes later may smack of a need for a power to time travel, lets view this through the prism of reality. On the app it says check in and clear security at jfk but would we need to coming from Portland maine ? You gotta be stupid if you are trying to connect in a large urban airport for under an hour domestically. Thank you again for your answer! Thank you! At San Francisco's SFO, some airlines still schedule minimum connection times as short as 30 minutes. I looked at map of T4 and found both gates but cant find customs at T4! Everyone boarded the LGA flight on time but there was delayed takeoff due airport traffic. Even if you did, and hour and 15 minutes would still be doable. Theyll just put you on the next one (automatically) and you wont have to wait long. Here's the bottom line: the Official Airline Guide (OAG) indicates that at JFK, the minimum connection time from domestic to domestic is one hour and from domestic to international is one hour and fifteen minutes. The process will go like this: Hi Scott, for DFW -JFK-AMS, will If it were me, Id book a night at the TWA Hotel (located adjacent to Terminal 5) and take a flight out to Miami in the morning. The anxiety was almost crippling as we landed in Phoenix. ADD had some 10-15 min MCTs loaded for ET-ET connections. I have good luck chatting through the app and I am not an elite. Youll have to ask those in line in front of you. We land late and the cranky lady takes her sweet time taking the suitcases off the rack. I just put in my origin and my destination and then have to pick from the options offered by AA, why are you offering such short connections if it is not adequate time to connect!! Theres insane amount of international traffic coming into the JFK Airport at all hours of the day Its going to get backed up at times, so have a little patience. - Hadn't thought about the "trip delay" angle, but I'd be surprised if AUS expanded to over 30 gates just before Covid, and the other day, I arrived on a flight from LAX at Gate 1. That percentage drops to maybe 50% on American. Inbound on international itineraries into DFW I book around an hour because there are flights every hour back to my home base if I misconnect there. Delta Air Lines operates a major international hub out of Terminals 2 and 4, while American Airlines has a hub in Terminal 8. Yeah, thats not a very fun type of connection to make at JFK. My arrival was :06 minutes late. Each airport has its own list of minimum connection times. A few months back I was connecting in MCO to MIA (after being rerouted through MCO) and the inbound was late. As a counter(data)point, I've had hundreds of connections <1hr and misconnected fewer than ten times. American Airlines 25-Minute Minimum Connection Time, Americans 25-minute minimum connection time in Austin. I suspect another consideration to MCT is the padding of schedules. The departure was delayed waiting for 8 late connecting bags, the same amount coming off our flight. The big difference between a tight connection in Austin vs Dallas is Austin has far too few gates and you often are delayed waiting for your gate to free up from the last departing flight. I am flying Toronto JFK with Delta. I'd say around 90 minutes for a connection (on the same ticket), and 180 minutes for an arrival and departure. I avoid booking an intinerary that does not have at least an hour connection scheduled. Were you flying international or domestically to a smaller service airport? Not too big of a deal if there are other frequencies later on in the day, but if that isn't the case it can be a nightmare. With over 120,000 industry-standard Minimum Connections Times (MCTs) and airline-specific exceptions to keep track of, we help you ensure your offering is consistent across booking . Don't know in the US but here if you are i.e. Having TSA Precheck will make a 1 hour and 40 minute connection easy. Id rather get a plethora of connections than just a few that price me out of the market. It can be difficult to find this information on an airline's . LAX RJ to RJ. Gotta run, I guess. This is one of those internal operations things that AA wouldn't actually answer because some Lean Six Sigma'd it, customers be damned, and that's just the way things are. We recommend you arrive to the airport at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure for international flights. This includes whether youre alone or have others in tow. I think it would be a relatively stress free experience with a 3 hour layover. Your thoughts and is there any way to expedite the connection? A few months back I was connecting in MCO to MIA (after being rerouted through MCO) and the inbound was late. I would only call the high A gates club closet-sized. How much additional time would you suggest for retrieving & re-checking a bag? I debated and thought well delta around 70% of the time will get to Atlanta around 30 minutes early which would bring my connection time up to 60 minutes instead of 30 minutes. To make matters worse, PSP-PHX is a Mesa flight which is not at all likely to be delayed :). But the time we landed, the connection flight departed. In general I think its time airlines overhaul their minimum connection times. Make your flight connection at JFK easy! AA has been offering itins with ridiculously short "please misconnect me" itins to me for months now, including 25-minute connection times in PHX and 35 to 55 minute connection times elsewhere. For more information, please contact the Japan Airlines Reservations Center. Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it My personal policy outbound on international itineraries is 2 hours +/- 15 minutes MCT given that my international flight, if a misconnect occurs, forces a 24 hour delay. however, now that I know how easy it is, my minimum connection times have been reduced quite significantly. Youll want to get off that flight from Milan as fast as you can though, because theres no telling how long itll take you to get through customs and immigration. The difference is that when things go wrong in Dallas, there are a lot more flights you can be rebooked on to get to your final destination. In that case, even a 45 minute connection would be fine connecting to a flight in the same terminal. If youre traveling with a five year old who MUST go potty, the most irrational and foolish gambit one take is to minimize that urgency and contend with the consequences on the next airplane. I'm pretty sure my FF Status with them and an article of me and my business publiced that time in their inflight magazine opened a few doors. check connecting times and be aware of your layover length before purchase. Minimum Connecting Time Technical Guide Page 7 of 17 B. Would love advice on if I should speak to the travel agent and get this changed or if you think 45 minutes would be okay but tight? This seemed ok to me. MINIMUMCONNECTION TIMES. Down to :30 minutes to make the connection - or :20, to boarding ending. Just walk from one plane to the next. And it was one of their tiny ass planes where any roller suitcase gets valet sticker at gate. I wont book a flight with less than a 60 minute connection time. Do I need to retrieve the luggage at JFK before rechecking them in? Typically first or first few rows of economy. Terminal 5 serves as the base of operations for low-cost carrier JetBlue. So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! Last night I was looking at an itinerary from Albuquerque to Tampa, and stumbled upon a pretty good option on American, which was both by far the cheapest, and by far the fastest. The only question is, do they have a protocol in place to alert the connecting gate agent that you're coming right off another plane, so they don't just declare you've missed the flight and close the door. Most of their hubs are so poorly designed, making a connection on time is a nightmare. Please review the special minimum required times below so you can plan accordingly and make sure you check in within the required number of minutes before your departure time. I would never book this, I think my average delay time on AA is >25 minutes, unless you assume your connecting flight's pushback is also subject to AA's MDT ("Minimum Delay Time") of 25 minutes. Pay vouchers and hotel for what? To make it worse, we were a couple of minutes early, and then had to wait 5 minutes for them to put a jet way on and open the door, giving her only 20 minutes, and we were around row 17..really absurd policy. I was just reading about the construction at JFK and possible bus service in lieu of Air Tran. I am a student and will have checked in baggage. Your example itinerary is even scarier since it's an RJ to a mainline jet. For domestic to domestic, they are typically under an hour, and can be as little as 30 minutes. Unless youre in 1st, always give yourself an hour between connections. I know that seems like a really wide range of time, but stay with me. While I was one of the first off the plane and through Global Pass in minutes, my luggage took forever to get on the conveyor. The agent says well next time don't book flights so close together. Sounds like you just have a racism issue. Both flights are part of the same ticket. Yes, a terminal change will require the need to go through security again. The connecting flight is likely going to be Delta as well if its a nonstop flight to Prague. - Hadn't thought about the "trip delay" angle, but I'd be surprised if there weren't people who tried that. or go from American Airlines to a British Airways. When I called American Airlines , their response was if they scheduled it , you can make it ! U.S. airlines routinely allow 30- to 40-minute connections for domestic flights. But it's also the most reasonable price by a not-insignificant amount. - That point about MCT in Frankfurt is SO accurate - I always book at least two hours entering Europe and 90 minutes on a return. Have a great trip! Our connecting flight is departing at 10:29pm on JetBlue. I would NEVER book that. :), watching your plane sit at the gate going nowhere with the jetbridge disconnected is pure heartbreak. Many do this (Ive done this twice) to get better fares or award seats out of JFK. You may end up with a bulkhead seat behind first/business class. Then, proceed to the security checkpoint to get back into T4 for your flight to CLT. I almost got run over by a fellow passenger after arriving in PHX last week. I am thinking of doing ICN-JFK-BDA with KE and DL. Do you think will it be possible? It will be a lot more challenging otherwise but you should still have enough time for it. Scott, I give up and head to my new gate where all the other passengers have already arrived and sat down and I try to ask the agent for proper boarding pass because what I was given had no seat listed and of course she gives me attitude and doesn't help. Have a good trip! Entitled much? Unfortunately I don't have always the choice but for sure, in Europe my favorite airport is MUC. Hi. Would be nice but impossible to connect bags in that short of time company has too many unrealistic expectations. Also, dont get hung up on the fact that Terminals 3 and 6 are nonexistent. I eventually get my case and run to shuttle where there's a wait and then I get on what felt like the slowest moving vehicle in the world and then at the terminal I run to the gate and get their 7 minutes before gate closes completely out of breath and practically wheezing because I have asthma. Plus there is no trip though security on a connection. Wow, not so familiar with US Airports but i.e. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. AA sold me a MCT in ORD changing to Madrid on Iberia. Ive personally never done it with luggage, but if I was planning on doing it, my minimum connection time would be 2 and a half hours. North America. Hey Christina yeah, 30 minutes sounds scary (itd even make me pucker up a little lol) but its super easy to get all the way from one end of Terminal 5 to the other in no time flat. I would want a minimum of 2 and a half hours for a no stress connection from a domestic flight to an international flight departing from a different terminal at JFK. I started not to book it because of such a short connection time, but it was the only flight I could book where I could get to Los Angeles before 11am. To answer your questions: 1A). Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. Its their lack of actually getting you to your gate on time. Amazing resource and responsiveness. Now AA does warn you about the connection time. Not only will I have to take the AirTrain to get to the other terminal, Im also going to have to stand in line to get through the security checkpoint once I get there. That alone makes a 60 minute connection necessary. Inexperienced flyers don't look closely at the connection time and book the flight. From there, you will need to go to the Delta check in area to re-check your luggage. And the same question for the return: These types of connections work out great when you have trip delay insurance and you don't care when you reach your final destination. Hi Phoebe Im glad youre finding this useful! Ellos hacen conexion en Miami y se nos ha retrasado el vuelo de Orlando entonces cuando eso sucede , nos quedamos de la conexion. Or international to domestic all within terminal 8 in 1.25 hours? Theyve only given a 45 minute transfer time. 1B). American Airlines has a 25-minute minimum connection time at Austin Airport. I realize it the next day when checking flight status using flight number and it came up as that route not starting until a month later. LIS was adviced Well, don't know how that works in the US but back in time I was Flying BRU-LIS-GRU with a theoretical stop over in LIS of about 2hrs (which in practice was/is always much more). It took about half an hour after the door opened for it to get to us the last 6 times we flew AA. That seems a little aggressive to me, but then again, I also avoid 40-minute connections at other hubs. The shortest published time isn't necessarily going to pan out that way. Yes, an hour and a half will be cutting really close even if you dont have to switch terminals. all on one ticket American Airlines operated by British Airways. The exception is Phoenix, which also has a 25-minute MCT, though thats a hub I generally avoid (just due to the geography, given that I live in Florida). What is the ideal connection time at JFK? Retrieve your luggage from the baggage carousel, Go through customs before exiting into arrivals area, Check your bags at the Delta ticket counter, Proceed through the security checkpoint to enter T4. Not just the rebooking risk but that you go from seat 11F on a 321ceo to seat 32B on a 738. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. I fly a lot. Of course, the gate agents aren't in fault but I asked to speak to their superiors to which I told I had a wedding that evening in GRU. You should have enough time to meet your friend IMHO. I dont even trust a one hour connection time. This is so u reasonable especially if your a senior citizen. From Doha to New York, which arrives at JFK (terminal 8) at 3pm EDT - operated by Qatar. No problem! Having Global Entry will make it even faster. Just have to get past the A.B.B. Same ticket flights operated by Delta and KLM (same alliance) and per the internet both at Terminal 4. There are reasons why I have avoided flying with them for a while now, it's too close for comfort. I want 90 minutes with a domestic.connectio. It takes at least 10 min to get anywhere on the skytrain. It lets me stretch my legs (which is good for anyone), and minimizes the chances of being among the folks running through the terminal. Ive always thought that the airlines can have short MCTs if they want but then they should warn you if you try to book a really short connection and offer you a longer connection option (if you want to be more sure your travel wont be disrupted).
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